This being said, feel free to use a Fire build instead if you are focused on dungeons, as Fire is a very effective build for most of them. We rank classes and specs by their overall DPS performance in PvE (Raids & Dungeons) at Level 60 for both Single Target and AoE encounters. You are useless on your own because you need to stack 5 scorches and keeping ignite up solo is borderline impossible. ._3gbb_EMFXxTYrxDZ2kusIp{margin-bottom:24px;text-transform:uppercase;width:100%}._3gbb_EMFXxTYrxDZ2kusIp:last-child{margin-bottom:10px} I'm sure that in the future that their will be more mages (who are much better than me and who can represent this in much higher quality videos than my own.). Most of this is circumstantial however. What about the black drake bosses like firemaw? Last updated 2019/10/09 at 1:10 PM View Changelog . I have a little over a month's worth of fire/frost logs to look over.https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/pagle/andy#zone=1000._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} People do over exaggerate how many mobs in mc/bwl are immune/high res fire. Frost mages are the most common variety you’ll find in Azeroth, but fire mages are also quite potent (as long as you aren’t in Molten Core or Blackwing Lair!). Table of Contents. The stat priority for Mages is as follows: You literally can’t play fire in MC/BWL. You have frost bolts, nova, cone of cold and blink for a reason. The single target dps per mage without rolling compared to a mage slinging 1200 dmg non crit frostbolts wasnt that big, from memory. While Fire spells tend to deal more damage, they cost more mana than Frost spells. maybe one day ill get there. This seems like a pretty legit build actually. Fire Mage. It's lower DPS than frost, but depending on your guild you can probably get away with it if you want. This is the real concern with this build imo. Browse Get Desktop Knowledge Base Twitter Reddit News Minecraft Forums Author Forums Browse Get Desktop Knowledge Base ... World of Warcraft. Crit on a fire mage? I just hope that mages who are researching about this now will stumple across this post instead of flipping through pages and pages of people bashing the idea. Fire Mage BWL (Frostfire hybrid build) Video / Media I know this is a very scuffed video, but I plan on releasing similiar ones of me getting rank 1 server dps as a frostfire mage for 75% of the fights in MC (Except for rag, baron, and domo) And Razorgore, Broodlord, and Chromaggus in BWL. For example if stacks drop off with only 20 secs left in fight you're best to just keep spamming fireball. 9: 547: 23 December 2020 Fire mage question, what are you using for fillers. I guess you could spec fire and just throw frost bolts. 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If all mages would switch to this build it wouldn't be a problem I guess. ^ WoW Classic Mage Discord , where all this information originates from. https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/pagle/andy#zone=1000. 3-min mage, this is just arcane fire where you have a 3min cooldown on pom pyro which is great for 1shot montages. Can anybody run me through the advantages with Fire and if or what circumstance it would be viable over Frost? You'd be surprised how well you can do with fire in both MC and BWL. I'm probably not the best mage to look at for logs, I'm a casual raider, but maybe my MC logs will help with your research into fire/frost. We will be listing multiple pieces of this set below, regardless, as their raw stats more than make up for the lack of useful set bonuses. Or you can choose to maybe play something else until ZG comes out, then raid ZG as fire mage and transition into 40man raids with the release of AQ. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Basically bis in every slot or close to it. I know this is a very scuffed video, but I plan on releasing similiar ones of me getting rank 1 server dps as a frostfire mage for 75% of the fights in MC (Except for rag, baron, and domo) And Razorgore, Broodlord, and Chromaggus in BWL. The mage talent calculator shown at the end of the video (can jump to 1:18) shows how this build works with fire immune bosses by making frostbolt worth the same amount of dmg as it would for a regular wc frost mage. However your overall damage compared to a Mage who specs frost will be considerably lower. Blue Tracker. I tried BFA out and didn't like mage at all but loved it in vanilla. Sauer-herod. Elemental (means you spec in the fire and frost trees) with ice barrier, elemental with blastwave, pom/blastwave much later. 4 4. If you’re already at max level, consider making a Mage alt if you don’t already have one. A community for World of Warcraft: Classic fans. I've been championing 0/30/21 for years and just hit a brick wall of "31/0/20 is better noob!" Wouldn't be hard for testing, but maybe long term. 17 September 2019 18:13 #2. 533 (100%) DPS Rogue. 56m: Hotfixes: December 21, 2020. 8,146 Addons. How about Arcane? You may find you like frost more than you think. Or at that point is it just not worth it. ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:bottom}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} Mages respec every week. 17 September 2019 15:16 #1. hey yoo. Welcome to our fire mage guide for WoW Classic! Live PTR Beta Classic. 10: 499: 23 December 2020 Question about Phoenix flames. I rolled a mage later into classic as an alt and my guild was raiding AQ at that point. With good enough gear and trinkets, a single Pyroblast can one-shot lesser geared enemies. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/ReredditLink.f7b66a91705891e84a09.css.map*/, good for you man. 17/0/34 Frost is just the least gear dependent in PvP. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} Their raid specs are a joke in pvp to. Fire Mage in Classic . Check out the list of top rated build PvE & PvP for Mage. I wouldn't want to be a nuisance to my team either though, but if it's pretty minimal or still viable I'd give it a try. I ran the same build in MC (one point difference in frost for range on Rag) and did pretty well with it, managed to snag a double-digit parse on Magmadar with it and did a good amount of DPS on Geddon, Rag, and fire immune trash. 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